Tuesday, September 28, 2004

Today was rather boring. I forgot to wake up Travy this morning so he slept in and missed school. Had an interesting conversation with one of my friends Shaina. We were talking and the fact that she had a speech came up and she said that she was doing it on wildlife protection (shes very interested in animals). Shaina said that her teacher said her class could do it on anything as long as it wasn't abortion or gay rights cause both those topics were too conterversial. I'll write down our conversation as best I can. We both have oposing view points on being gay and the fact that we could talk about it and such was...I felt like I understood were she was coming from more.
Me-If you could of done your speech on gay marriage or abortion would you
Shaina-Yes
Me-Realy witch one and what would you say
Shaina-being gay and how its sick and twisted
Me-Why
Shaina-You don't think being gay is sick and twisted
Me-no why would it be
Shaina-You don't think two guys or girls kissing isn't sick and twisted
Me-no more than a guy and a girl kissing, whats the difference
Shaina-Its unatural
Me-why
Shaina-it is
Me-why
Shaina-god says its wrong the bible says its wrong
Me-he does? the bible wasn't written by god it was written by people and your assuming that what they say is what god would say and assuming there is a god
Shaina-you don't beleive in god
Me-I don't know if I do
Shaina-you can't be on the fence you either beleive in him or you don't
Me-Why do I have to beleive in him
Shaina-are you saying you don't
Me-I'm saying I don't know
Shaina-do you have faith in him
Me-I don't know
Shaina-(loudly) you don't beleive in god your going strate to hell (I realy hope she wasn't to serious about that I don't like the idea of my friends thinking I'm going to hell)
Letesha (who was sitting right next to us)-You don't beleive in god
Me-I didn't say that, anyway shaina why would I go strate to hell for not knowing if there is a god but you won't
Shaina-because I beleive in him
Me-but that can't be enough assuming hell exist who says your not going for beleiving being gay is sick and twisted
Shaina-because it says so in the bible
Me-what about all the other religouns out there that don't beleive in god as you see him
Shaina-But they do beleive in him in some form and thats what matters it doesn't matter whos the closest as long as you beleive
Me-what about polythesisum were you beleive in more than one god
Shaina-thats still beleiving in god in some form
Me-I can see how that would be true

I was about to ask her what about religouns were it was considered okay to be gay (can't think of any off the top of my head but I'm sure there has to be a few). Or I was going to ask what about one of her favorite teachers who happens to be gay. I was wondering is she considered him sick and twisted. God and morals...man thats some heavy stuff to talk about at 8 30 in the morning huh. Though it got me thinking of were I get my morals and beleifs from. When it comes to morals religoun has never factored in highly cuase like I said a few posts ago I'm not from the most religous family. My sister has helped shape them alot, I think even more than my parents. Her friends too. Besides that I can't realy figure out were mine did come from. I've been surprised how many of my friends though site religoun as the reason they beleive in one thing or another or why there torn on an issue. I don't know just something to think about.

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