Wednesday, October 29, 2003

Nice convo.

Dilapoid: Karmel.
Karmi55: jes?
Dilapoid: Jesus? Jester? Jerry? Jessy?
Karmi55: yes.
Karmi55: jes =yes
Dilapoid: jokahy.
Dilapoid: jats jreally jool.
Karmi55: lol
Karmi55: XD
Dilapoid: jlol
Dilapoid: jXD
Karmi55: okay, enough
Dilapoid: :p
Dilapoid: Just teasing.
Karmi55: okay, i'm on trillian, so at this point i don't know who you are
Karmi55: because i can't see you're email
Karmi55: do you have a name?
Dilapoid: I write poetry. My name, in full, means the one like god how is a blacksmith.
Dilapoid: I am an OBer.
Karmi55: ooooh
Dilapoid: I moderate a poetry forum.
Dilapoid: I am a guy.
Dilapoid: hm..
Karmi55: mitch?
Dilapoid: What else.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Dilapoid: lol
Karmi55: yea
Karmi55: go me
Karmi55: XD
Dilapoid: Indeed.
Karmi55: Well, hello mitch. nice to meet you.
Karmi55: =)
Dilapoid: Nice to meet thou too.
Karmi55: lol
Dilapoid: Thou art accosted as a king to his queen.
Karmi55: I am?
Dilapoid: Ita vero.
Karmi55: * stare *
Dilapoid: [Latin for yes]
Karmi55: oooh.
Karmi55: okay
Dilapoid: Yes. Add it to your vocabulary. :p
Karmi55: yes lord mitch
Karmi55: * bows *
Dilapoid: I am a lord?
Dilapoid: Hm.
Karmi55: yes
Dilapoid: This thought entertains me.
Karmi55: glad I could entertain you.
Karmi55: ^-~
Dilapoid: And what makes a lord a lord?
Karmi55: greatness or wealth.
Dilapoid: Hm.
Dilapoid: And what makes someone great?
Karmi55: or power.
Karmi55: hmmm...
Dilapoid: "To be great is to be misunderstood," Emerson once said.
Karmi55: amen.
Dilapoid: Someonthing-or-other Waldo Emerson.
Karmi55: Ralph
Karmi55: ^-^
Dilapoid: Ralph is a revy name.
Karmi55: it is?
Dilapoid: Yes. Because I said so.
Karmi55: yes Lord Mitch
Dilapoid: lol
Dilapoid: Yes queen melday.
Dilapoid: *melady
Dilapoid: Melday? *-8
Karmi55: melday would be a neat name
Karmi55: or Meleday
Dilapoid: Okay.
Karmi55: pick a color
Dilapoid: If I marry you we can have a child of this name.
Dilapoid: Black as tar, black as death.
Karmi55: sounds good
Karmi55: and now give me another color that contrasts black
Dilapoid: White as bone, white as ribs.
Karmi55: now a shape
Dilapoid: A mangled hand.
Karmi55: intresting....
Dilapoid: lol
Karmi55: and a language
Dilapoid: Metaphor
Karmi55: I'm trying to figure out what to paint on my walls.
Dilapoid: Paint me.
Dilapoid: :p
Karmi55: no, i'll just put you on my desktop ^-~
Karmi55: and underneath it shall say "Lord Mitch"
Dilapoid: lol
Dilapoid: Okay, okay.
Dilapoid: I dost not have a picture of thou.
Dilapoid: Withal I amst not able to place thou on my desktop.
Dilapoid: And put "Queen of Mitch."
Karmi55: lol
Karmi55: I have a pic somewhere.
Karmi55: But I am entirely too lazy to search for it.
Dilapoid: Eheu.
Karmi55: schade.
Karmi55: schade is better.
Karmi55: =P
Dilapoid: Eheu.
Dilapoid: Eheu is better.
Dilapoid: It is latin for "Alas."
Dilapoid: It is so fun to say too.
Dilapoid: Eheu.
Karmi55: schade is german for 'too bad'
Dilapoid: Like sneezing, so notwithstanding and so dastardly.
Dilapoid: Nine.
Karmi55: nein
Dilapoid: :p
Karmi55: =P
Dilapoid: That concludes Mitch's knowing of German.
Karmi55: yes it does.
Dilapoid: Eugepae!
Karmi55: I must concede though, Latin is better than German.
Karmi55: And dare I ask what that means?
Dilapoid: Nevar!
Dilapoid: Nevar to the first.
Dilapoid: And it means "Hooray!:
Karmi55: heheh
Karmi55: do actions truly speak louder than words?
Dilapoid: But words speak for actions and actions speak for words.
Karmi55: so what would be louder? an action or a word?
Dilapoid: Both are louder.
Karmi55: or would they be equal?
Karmi55: louder than what
Karmi55: ?
Dilapoid: Louder than each other.
Dilapoid: I'd say they're equal.
Karmi55: yes, we have come to a consensus!
Karmi55: ^-~
Karmi55: ever stayed in a closet all day?
Dilapoid: No. I'm not gay. I do not have to worry..
Dilapoid: Stupid society and homosexuals.
Dilapoid: I scoff.
Karmi55: you know, you're the 5th person who's taken that the wrong way today.
Karmi55: and that rhymed. wow.
Karmi55: I stayed in a closet all day. It was very boring.
Karmi55: and cramped.
Dilapoid: Woo hoo shoopey doo lookie it's dirty too and me and you and him and i chew on the burger's hue and eat the glue and suck blue and we're sad as true.
Dilapoid: It rhymes!
Dilapoid: :p
Karmi55: yes but it makes no sense.
Karmi55: if you can rhyme AND make sense, you're gifted.
Karmi55: ^-~
Dilapoid: I can.
Dilapoid: I was just driveling there lol.
Karmi55: Yes I know.
Karmi55: you're so gifted.
Karmi55: * bows *
Dilapoid: I am flattered.
Dilapoid: Let's get married. :p
Karmi55: okay
Karmi55: ^-~
Karmi55: my cats will be jealous.
Karmi55: they think they're the only ones entitled to my attention.
Dilapoid: Cats are felines and women are feminities. They both scratch and claw, their little hands so beautiful and calm.
Karmi55: Yes, but a woman won't leave hair all over your bed unless she's really nasty
Dilapoid: I feel poetic.
Karmi55: really? then exercise your poetic licesnce.
Dilapoid: http://www.otakuboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33196
Dilapoid: A juniorclassman committed suicide two days ago.
Karmi55: did you know him?
Dilapoid: No.
Dilapoid: That is what that piece is in memory of.
Karmi55: is suicide an act of cowardice or bravery?
Dilapoid: Both.
Karmi55: is it possible to be both?
Dilapoid: Well, on one hand it takes bravery to do it. It takes guts.
Karmi55: but it's also running away from your problems.
Karmi55: from life.
Karmi55: suicide is a paradox.
Dilapoid: And what is death? Death is forced as well. Only it isn't a choice.
Karmi55: death is forced by the passage of time.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Karmi55: is time circular or linear?
Dilapoid: It is also forced because it is.
Karmi55: true.
Dilapoid: Well, if one looks at it as numbers and daylight and beads in an hourglass..
Dilapoid: Indeed.
Karmi55: eastern philosphy views it as circular, but westerners view it as linear.
Dilapoid: Circular and linear would be nearly the same things, though...
Dilapoid: Linear means it follows a certain pattern.
Dilapoid: That it ends in a certain fashoin.
Dilapoid: And a circle goes round.
Dilapoid: It begins and ends and begins and ends.
Karmi55: fashion*
Dilapoid: Yes.
Dilapoid: Thanks.
Karmi55: you're welcome.
Dilapoid: A circle is linear too..
Dilapoid: It is a certain area with a certain way it looks with a certain way it is.
Karmi55: but a line goes on and on forever, always creating new things, never repeating itself the exact same way.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Karmi55: a circle goes back and relives itself.
Karmi55: it's different.
Dilapoid: But in a faint comparison, they are almost the same.
Karmi55: I know.
Dilapoid: Time must be linear then.
Dilapoid: It goes on even when all else is gone.
Karmi55: does it?
Dilapoid: I am assume.
Dilapoid: *assuming
Dilapoid: I cannot know.
Karmi55: true.
Dilapoid: Like I cannot know that God is real, or Jesus is real.
Dilapoid: I cannot know.
Karmi55: ick, God.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Dilapoid: I label myself as an apatheist.
Karmi55: Yes I know.
Dilapoid: I do not care if there is a god or isn't.
Dilapoid: *nod*
Karmi55: I don't understand why people should fear ceasing to exist.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Dilapoid: I know.
Dilapoid: If you lasted forever..
Dilapoid: It's just not comprehendable.
Karmi55: No it's not.
Karmi55: Like time.
Karmi55: Neither is heaven.
Karmi55: How can a place without suffering exist? In order for that to be, we would not have our memories. True, we wouldn't know what we are missing, but I find the idea highly unsettling. I'd rather be condemned to nothingness.
Dilapoid: Exactly what I think.
Karmi55: Or eternal suffering. Whichever suits your fancy.
Dilapoid: Even purity suffers.
Karmi55: Yes. Always staring at sin. Wondering what it would be like.
Dilapoid: It's a sin to be pure. It's outdoing what's human. It's outgoing what's nature.
Dilapoid: I don't see sin as such a big deal.
Dilapoid: It is nature.
Dilapoid: It is going to happen.
Karmi55: True.
Karmi55: So anything pure is sinful? That's quite an oxymoron.
Dilapoid: It is.
Dilapoid: But think about it...
Dilapoid: Even as pure as something is..
Dilapoid: It has to have some bad in its nature.
Dilapoid: It has to have some sin.
Dilapoid: And to be pure is unreachable...it's something that would be a sin. Something that would be a sin human-wuse.
Dilapoid: *wise
Karmi55: You're talking about humanity then. Of course. To be pure is to be inhuman.
Dilapoid: Yes.
Karmi55: But how does it become a sin?
Dilapoid: A sin is something bad, right? Something that labeled by god is wrong.
Dilapoid: Think about this.
Dilapoid: What's the difference between right and wrong?
Dilapoid: Is there any set lines other than what others tell you?
Dilapoid: Really, what's good to someone else..
Dilapoid: Can be bad to someone else.
Dilapoid: Take a murderer for example.
Dilapoid: He kills.
Dilapoid: He must think it is right on some accord.
Karmi55: yes mitch, i read your thread.
Dilapoid: He does it because he likes it, because he doesn't see it as wrong.
Dilapoid: This is what I mean.
Dilapoid: Don't look at what god labels as sin.
Karmi55: Yes, so being pure is impossible, because you can't act in a manner that EVERYONE deems as pure.
Dilapoid: Exactly.
Karmi55: Okay, I see what you mean.
Karmi55: what were we talking about before?
Dilapoid: I don't know lol.
Karmi55: oh yea. suicide.
Karmi55: which lead to sin, etc.
Dilapoid: Suicide is only bad to those who see it bad, again.
Dilapoid: I love how good and bad...my thinking of it...applies to so many things.
Karmi55: yes it does.
Dilapoid: One who commits suicide sees at as right.
Dilapoid: Sees at as pure..
Dilapoid: As a golden gate to end suffering.
Dilapoid: *it
Dilapoid: You know..
Dilapoid: The romans saw suicide as a noble thing.
Dilapoid: See how things change? See how today it's looked as something bad?
Karmi55: It can be noble. It can also be beautiful.
Dilapoid: Exactly.
Dilapoid: I believe, then...that all things are both good and bad.
Dilapoid: It's the only way to say it.
Karmi55: Regecting the system. Choosing to end your own life, spite death.
Karmi55: Of course. All things have inherent good and bad traits.
Dilapoid: So saying this...
Dilapoid: What's the point of good and bad?
Dilapoid: It's contradicting of one another..
Dilapoid: It's something that when looked at closer...there is no need for it.
Karmi55: This is true.
Karmi55: yes, but sometimes it's easier to just say good or bad.
Dilapoid: But again..
Karmi55: rather than get into a big long discussion likethis ^-~
Karmi55: like this *
Dilapoid: This is because one thinks SOMETHING is more good or bad.
Karmi55: yes. candy is not all good, but it's more good than bad (to me), so it becomes good in my eyes.
Dilapoid: Good and bad are only words...
Dilapoid: Look at them as such.
Dilapoid: They only mean what they mean.
Dilapoid: They only notion some emotional feeling.
Karmi55: So what? Transcend words?
Dilapoid: Words transced themselves, truthfully..
Dilapoid: And indeed...words can also be both good and bad.
Dilapoid: At the same time.
Karmi55: Yes, they can.
Dilapoid: Just don't look at words as so absolute.
Dilapoid: All they are is words that paint a picture or some thing for someone to see.
Dilapoid: *all words are
Dilapoid: Hm..
Karmi55: Words hold many different meanings, so a word to one person can mean an entirely different thing to another.
Karmi55: of course they are not absolute.
Dilapoid: Yeah.
Karmi55: nor are they good or bad.
Dilapoid: But some words are so much stronger than others.
Dilapoid: Mangled.
Dilapoid: What a great word.
Dilapoid: Banal;.
Dilapoid: What a great word.
Dilapoid: And so on and so forth.
Karmi55: Yes.
Dilapoid: Writing is art as painting is as drawing is.
Dilapoid: As singing is as anything that's expression is.
Karmi55: of course.
Dilapoid: They all go beyond what they say.
Dilapoid: Of course heh.
Karmi55: anything can be art as long as they is passion and thought.
Dilapoid: I'm just more embedding.
Dilapoid: Hm.
Karmi55: there*
Dilapoid: It's nice to talk to you heh.
Karmi55: =) you too.
Dilapoid: Deep conversations are what I love.
Karmi55: Yes, unfortunatly many people are too afraid or close-minded to have them.
Dilapoid: People look at things so stupidly and one-dimensonally.
Dilapoid: *dimensionally
Dilapoid: You have to look past what people give you.
Dilapoid: You can't just believe to believe.
Dilapoid: You have to have a reason...you have to see something.
Karmi55: Amen.
Karmi55: Hold nothing on faith.
Dilapoid: I'd say religion really annoys me.
Karmi55: Faith is a liar and a cheat.
Dilapoid: Especially organized religion.
Dilapoid: Well..
Dilapoid: you need faith every now and then.
Dilapoid: To love is to have faith.
Dilapoid: Love isn't a certain thing.
Karmi55: Once in a blue moon.
Dilapoid: What love is to another is love to another.
Dilapoid: And at other times isn't.
Dilapoid: It goes again into good and bad.
Dilapoid: Sort of..
Dilapoid: It isn't defined.
Karmi55: Love is one of those words that if one was to truly put it's meaning in the dictionary, the dictionary might use up all the trees in the Amazon rainforest.
Dilapoid: lol
Dilapoid: Indeed.
Dilapoid: Hm. Anyways, I should be going.
Dilapoid: I will definitely talk to you again.
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