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Wednesday, November 5, 2003
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Seriously, though, you need to re-evaluate who you think you are and realize that you don't know very much about anything. I mean, you know who you look like right now? Kevin. Do you remember Kevin? I think you were here when he was. He thought he knew stuff, but he didn't know anything, and when met with
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No I don't. I know enough about what I've learned so far. I get A's and B's in school...I am highly respected for my writing abilities, every single English teacher I have talked to has said I am highly talented.
Don't even compare me to Kevin. All I am doing is trying to get through your head that I can be who I want to be.
I have discussed this matter with many people, even posted this PM in My O. They all say not to worry. Here's an exact quote from Heaven's Cloud:
ShadowedCloudX: Well I wouldn't worry about it terribly...he is basing everything on life experience and saying that you aren't experienced enough to know such and such. The age difference is so minute it is laughable. I am three years older than he is so I could turn around and say the same thing to him...
Just because you are older than me doesn't mean you're so much smarter. And as far as I have seen, you aren't. You just act like you are.
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I draw comparison to Dayday, TaylorHewitt, and to a lesser extent, Raiha.
My advice to you is, until you've got your shit together, chill out.
Also, I really don't think you should be in charge of the Fiction forum, but that's just my opinion. You base all of your literary "knowledge" on your own unfounded and generally incorrect opinions about writing. I mean, dude, get with the program okay?
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Well, I don't think you should ever be mod...and I know sure as hell that James won't make you one. You're too abrasive. Too hitting. Too mean. You don't stop and think, "Well, by God, people can have their own opinions!"
I find it absurd to ever see you as a mod. The way you beat other people apart here on OB...you'll never, ever be one. You actually have to have respect for people to be a mod. You actually have to understand people to be a mod. Not just understand what you think and what you think is right.
I will admit I don't know extensive knowledge of famous authors and such. But when it comes down to it...knowledge is not about knowing, it is about experiencing. And I have written far more poems than you have I am sure as hell. I have a word document that's about 60,000 words long, with many poems...not even all of my poems. I also have so many little stories started on my computer I can't even count.
And I'm not even in College yet. I'm still a Junior in High School.
Generally incorrect opinions about writing? Well, "think outside the box," like you always say. I think I have great opinions on writing.
Writing isn't about rules. It isn't about words. It isn't about syntax. It isn't about grammar. It's about expression...and making people see things like they never have.
Writing is a personalized tool. It isn't another thing to be held down by rules. It is something to be one's own.
If you don't agree with this...then I don't know how you can appreciate Shakespeare. He used words that were his own. He wrote words that were his own.
As for punctuation...it's useless to put interdictions on those as well. Those are as much an art as writing is.
Writing isn't about anything you seem to think it is. You seem to write only to seem more intellectual, and to be as great as you see some other writers are.
Ralph Waldo Emerson once said that "to be great is to be misunderstood." And I think, clearly, you have misunderstood me.
You've misunderstood my whole intention of sending this asking for an apology...my entire view on so many things.
You seem to be brainwashed by facts. Writing isn't about facts. It isn't about anything they teach it to be in school. To know something you have to make it your own..and this is what I have done. I feel very strongly about writing. Very much so. So just because I know not as much as you do about writers and grammar and such doesn't mean anything. I still know how to write something with more heart than you probably will ever understand. I still know how to write something with better effect than I think you'll ever understand. My opinions on writing are just what they are--opinions. If you don't want to take my skin and crawl around in it, then by all means, don't be an Atticus Finch as I think all people should be.
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How many times over AIM (and how many times on OB) have you resorted to "It's my opinion" or a variation thereof?
You've got to drop the ego, Mitch, cause you can't back it up, and look like a total tool when you try.
No offence, but you're all bark and no bite. You should start taking the advice of those around you, because those giving you sound criticism do know what they're talking about.
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What do you think any principle that's been made is? Any word--Abstractism, Militarism, Imperialism, Realism, and so on--what do you think these are? What do you think it requires to believe in these? What do you think it requires to say anything about anything? Well Jesus, I can't believe it, it requires something called an opinion. How amazing.
Of course they know what they are talking about...but I don't write just for someone else. I write mainly for myself and how I think something should be. But I do take in what they say.
The reason why this teacher said what she did is because we had to write the paper in a "formal essay" form. It is such a horrid way of writing...so I tried to go too far. And I got what I got for doing it. My paper wasn't as direct and to the point as it should've been...and this is what the teacher pointed out. But I still refused to change it, because that isn't writing to me. Writing in formal essay form is useless to me. And stupid. But I'll write in it as much as I can try to get a grade. I still got a B+ on that paper. It should tell you something...because I did bend the rules of a formal essay quite much.
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Your writing and stories are overly hazy and unfocused because of your "style." Using 14 metaphors in a paragraph doesn't make your writing better. It makes it worse.
I can barely read anything you post on OB because it's so poorly written. You flame other people on OB? You flame your teacher? Dude, chill out and learn something before you open your mouth.
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Well, using dull, stupid words for a paragraph is dull to me. I've just begun realizing my style. It is only in its infancy. And right now, I'm sure many would say it's way better than yours. And you plan on becoming a teacher? If you can't understand what writing even means...and even understand how much it means to me, how can you even teach something you don't know? On the contrary, I think you should keep your mouth shut.
Most people consider me the best poster on OB. To say I don't know anything is to be so damn ignorant it isn't even funny. I mean, you seem like an intelligent person. If you can't see that I am at least somewhat intelligent and tangible...I don't know what to say to you.
Have you ever read Poe's writing? The best author ever in my opinion. This is how I write, after him. And this is how my style is growing. If you want to say my writing is horrible, fine. But what I say is often full of a lot of heart and heavy thinking. I think a lot before I say. I do keep my mouth shut. Most of the time I am one of the most quiet people you will ever know. Believe me, I know what I'm saying when I say something. My writing is not confusing at all if you actually take it to its heart and actually see all the things I paint with my words. But obviously you won't see this. I don't see how you label yourself as so great. You're sitting here telling me I know nothing, when in fact, by saying this, you're saying that you know nothing.
Charles even thinks I'm an amazing writer. He's said he loves my poems and writing so often...and I've said the same to him. I honestly think he's a much better writer than you. At least he understands what writing truly is...and sees how great and powerful it is.
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And you know, every time you and I have debated on OB, you've degenerated into throwing little hissy fits, and people DO notice. I've got quite a few IMs saved with people who don't like you at all. I'm not going to name names, because that's not what I do.
My biggest crit is...know something for once.
Hope that helped,
PoisonTongue
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Throw hissy fits? It's just me showing more of my opinion. And let me tell you, I do know what I am saying. I'm saying my opinion.
I've gotten quite a few IMs from people saying that they think you're an asshole and a jerk. I'm not going to name names, because that's not what I do. Pff.
Your biggest crit is know something for once? Pff. Many people see me as one of the smartest people they have met. I see you as pretty smart to...but what you've posted here, and elsewhere, has started changing my opinion. You're all bite and no bark. You sit here and post the largest post you can think of in your head, and bash people as hard as you can until they are wounded, and you don't say anything that actually gives reason to your rebuttals.
I'm sorry...but if you're not going to respect me, I'm not going to respect you. I sent you that PM to get back to square one...to clean off the slate. And you're too pigheaded to actually understand so many things. A lot of the things I've quoted in here are pretty damn ignorant for someone of your age. It's funny..I seem to be more mature than you.
At least I had the respect to ask for an apology and to give one. And you just throw it in my face? If you want it that way, then I can do it that way.
You actually said what you said kindly...but still, this isn't what I was looking for and you know it. I was asking for you to see eye-to-eye with me. To not be so damn critical. But obviously you can't. And if you can't be civil, then I'm not going to be civil to you.
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